In response to comments on Higher brain functions currently suspended
Do I think that socially there is an problem with the image of women the media portrays?
Yes I do.
Do I think the media is to blame for this issue?
No I don't. I think the media is partly responsible, but so are those people who buy what they are selling (the concept as much as the wares). I think there is a greater philosophical question of how much the media is creating and how much the media is giving what people want. I'm not a social anthropologist, so I don't have the answer, but I do believe that merely blaming the media is a easy answer, but is a sorely deficient one.
Do I think this can change?
Yes, I think it will change. As styles and fashions ebb and flow (much like languages do), new body images will appear, some worse some better. I think this will change so societies change naturally. I don't think this will change much because intellectually people realise it's 'not such a good thing'. People know smoking is bad and we still smoke. I feel it will change as a result of society changing naturally.
Do I think that by posting a photograph of a picture that shows a unrealistic body type I am helping make things worse?
No I don't. I'm not selling anything. I'm not trying to market anything. I'm using the picture for no purpose but to say "I found these women attractive". The fact it's on my blog is no different to me turning to a mate and pointing at the photograph and saying wow.
But surely you see how, say a women seeing that moblog could think "I don't look like that I'm ugly" and that by posting your picture you are encouraging that?
Yes I do see how a women could have that response. The same way I myself wish I looked more like Matt Damon. However I know Matt Damon is something I can't look like, and I know he is attractive. I also know that even if their is a bit of photoshopping work done on a photoshoot, I still wont look like Matt Damon. He would look good regardless. He is a good looking guy. So I am able to understand that it's ok for someone to find Matt Damon attractive. Girls all around the country have pictures of Movie and music stars taken out of their teen magazines and stuck on their walls. Being attracted to good looking people is normal
Yeah but good looking people didn't used to be photoshopped.
That's true. But they used to filmed in the right lighting and with make up, so the practise of altering the reality is not new. Photoshop has just made it possible to extend what can be done, but the concept isn't much different. Personally I cannot tell what has been photoshopped and what hasn't. I guess just about every magazine front page image has. So what must I do about it? I can either find the image 'wrong' and not like because intellectually I know it's probably fake. Unfortunately for me, I cannot change my emotional response to something always based on intellect. I still find the girls attractive. The same way I'm not bother by fake tits. Some people find the concept of anything fake adherent. I don't. Please don't presume that I have to find the same things attractive and unattractive as you do.
Well you're a pig. Not every girl can look like a movie star you know.
I do know that. And I have been attracted to many many girls who are not. Their are also many models and movie stars I don't find attractive. However these are people who are often are very attractive and I enjoy looking at attractive movie stars. If you have an issue with this, you're living on a strange planet. I don't worship the movie stars and I don't expect every girl to be one. However giving me shit because I found someone attractive is unfair, regardless of their body type. Give me as much shit as you like when I talk about someone I don't find attractive using derogatory terms, but allow me to choose who I find attractive or not.
Well how do you ever expect to get a girlfriend if you have a warped sense of what women really look like?
I don't expect anything. And the third thing (after intelligence and the ability to make me laugh) I look for in a women is that I must be attracted to her. Note, attracted to her, not that she must look like a model
But if you think women look like these airbrushed fakes then how will you ever be attracted to a normal women?
Easily. All the women I meet who I am attracted to normal women. I am attracted by many physical characteristic as well as style (dress, look etc). Some of these are conventional and some are not. Sure some of this is based on social conditioning I don't deny that. But at the end of the day I'm attracted to who I am attracted to and I'm not who I'm not. The range of women I am attracted to varies a lot more than you might think. I don't think it's fair to judge me on who I am attracted too.
Why do you keep bringing up men in this. Many have nothing to worry about?
All I am trying to highlight is that we all have social pressures. Far more men commit suicide over pressure to achieve success than women. This is not a tit for tat thing, but just saying that society places different pressure on different groups. Girls tend not to date men shorter than them. Guys are attracted to thin girls. It's all crap. Presuming I don't understand what women go through is unfair. Please don't place the worlds social ills on my shoulders, I never placed them on yours.
Sometimes things are only what they are and no more. I found a picture of two people I consider attractive, attractive. That was it. I have no more to say on this.